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Nice work Tony, I have been to the dark side and come back Remember last week we worked out you are but a boy (lucky bastard :laugh: )

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I love reading your stories Scott they are fully loaded like you :laugh: The hr you mentioned wasnt that bad but blame Kram. I have his bike at my place come and ride it for a day or so you will feel better

Bring on the rest of it, cant wait to see your take on the Sunny corner loam :laugh: :laugh:

TB

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Yeah its all good Tony, I dish and I take always but didn’t dish you your bike etc as I thought it was a serious discussion :laugh: Chris said early on he is happy with his bike but it doesn’t have a button. In his intro he talked about his WR and how he didn’t like it and went back to his current bike. He wants the same with a button Champ :laugh: Chris rode the softer B route on the weekend as he is not a WR, CRF, TM, two stroke rider.
I really think this is all messed up because of the written word and unread posts here and other threads by people

Now leave my Jersey out of it or I will cry :S and start on about your eyebrows And Moto’s your God, there is a statement :whistle:

TB

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We have several types of bikes being discussed

TB comes from an XR650 mindset, yep quick, reliable, engine longevity is terrific, but also heavy tiring to punt for the average weekend warrior.

Not completely Bruce I have been recently putting a lot of thought into a 300 smoker as some people know, but thought it better to update the dual sporter for Sal and I first then we will see.

Also most punters dont ride “4 hours did 20 ks…..no rest breaks either” do they :laugh:

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We employed 3 highly paid camera men, no cornerman duties for them and only got 2 pictures so far WTF!!!

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That would great Ollie, we will have a blast I reckon

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Sorry Trent I maybe should have explained better. There are manufactures maintance requirements that are unrealistic as we all know. Take the two stroke engine piston and ring requirements, everyone knows that they are unrealistic in the real world. BMW services, valves shimming etc. Husky service requirements etc.

Maintance includes say adjusting the valves some engines as you know use bucket and shim adjustment which is far more maintance intensive to adjust the say screw and nut. Some engines require the valves to be checked more often then others as you know. Oil change interval etc all add up to mainatnce schedules and time and effort you would agree.

Have you read the maintance schedule for a high performance two stroke Trent? My KTM 250 smoker I rode and raced said to change the rings every 8hrs and piston every 16hrs

Why attack my jersey or me or my bike what was that going to prove? I never said boo about an XR or Baja or the likes or any brand longevity did I? You made it personal

I know plenty of people faster then you and I that are faster on a DR Trent be it singles or twins mate.

Moto your bit doesnt surprise me or add anything you also made it personal for what reason I don’t know.

Knowing Chris as I do I offered what I thought, from expernice and working on bikes and engines for a few years. Same as I answered your slipper clutch question Trent

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Austblue wrote:

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Can anyone tell me why you’d want a slipper clutch in SM racing? I would have thought using compression lock ups to help get the back out would be an advantage especially on right handers.

It stops the rear wheel chattering, if you dont have one you knock it down a couple of gears and feed the clutch out slowly. If you just dump the clutch the engine over revs and the rear wheel hops making it hard to ride and control

TB

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Austblue wrote:

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What do you consider high maintenance? I don’t really think a good modern bike is high maintenance and although my 4stroke was a bit of a lemon I don’t think the maintenance schedule was difficult though I have to say that going to a 2t has made me lazy as hell because I can just ride it and wash it so the little things that aren’t very necessary don’t get done where I used to have to go over the bike most rides to fix bits.

I’d suggest either a DRZ or if you’re after a change try a WR450 or even a WR250R perhaps. If you’re an active rider I think you’ll find these more fun rather than the pedestrian XR/DRZ style. Of course people will get defensive about that statement but it is fact that most people can’t throw the heavier bikes/tractors around fast trails though I acknowledge not everyone wants to.

Tony I am still shaking my head from the above mate :laugh: The maintance requirements and the life expectancy alone are completely different and to different to even try and type here. I also think that’s why your 4 stroke was like it was probably from the previous owner if you didn’t own it from new.

If you think your two stroke is maintance free just remember its new at the moment mate its time will come, if you maintained it as recommended well that would be a whole different story

As for the pedestrian comment :laugh: well that is neither here nor there really but isn’t surprising: P

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Train trip Mal?

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Trailboss wrote:

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Gas Gas 450 FSE, highly underrated bike, not as hard-core as the other 450s, and lower maintenance like the DRZ or XR.

Fuel injected
Proven reliability
Good suspension, some models with Ohlins
Motor is reknown for longevity
Cheap as chip for a good low kilometre second-hand one (if you can find one)

If i were in the market for a softer trailbike in a 4T, the Gas Gas would certainly be in top position

BC

Ask around Wauchope I thinks Deans did 3500kms before it was rebuilt and still isnt right I think I heard.

Stay main stream IMO

TB

Yep there were a few friday arvo ones, but well outnumbered by the quietly ticking along ones running perfectly, buy something ’06 and newer all bugs worked out by then just like the bad batch of XRs a few years back. But a good secondhand one will have had any bugs ironed out, up here they are relatively easy to find the local dealer (before he burnt down) was very active and sold quite a few.

But sure if you like spending heaps of money just to bring a DRZ up to half the Gas gas’s standard, hey why not.

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The gasser is fuel injected Bruce good thing for economy etc but after 4 day and the amount of fuel injected bike we saw broken down I am not sure thats a good thing. That said I am about to purchase a fuel injected bike :laugh:
An Ohilns one maybe but would most punters know thye difference between a setup olhins bike and a setup Showa or the likes bike I think not

But some good points there Bruce

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After reading that chopper thread the mind is now racing…. I loved the sticker kit.. Is chopper still riding it? I noticed he hasn’t visited since November last year….

TB you up for another OBT Project bike

Hell yeah I am, love a project bike but maybe just maybe Chops maybe for sale. It had new valves guides and seats fitted, new piston and rings, jetting kit its like new. Will get abck to you

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Mr Blue wrote:

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Gas Gas 450 FSE, highly underrated bike, not as hard-core as the other 450s, and lower maintenance like the DRZ or XR.

Fuel injected
Proven reliability
Good suspension, some models with Ohlins
Motor is reknown for longevity
Cheap as chip for a good low kilometre second-hand one (if you can find one)

If i were in the market for a softer trailbike in a 4T, the Gas Gas would certainly be in top position

BC

Ask around Wauchope I thinks Deans did 3500kms before it was rebuilt and still isnt right I think I heard.

Stay main stream IMO

TB

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As above your last post Chris

Chops did a intake valve but we found it had been dusted previous him purchasing it from the police force through e bay

I would say they are bullet proof if maintained, I know of one that has been ridden through the middle of Australia and then right around and never been touched bar servicing.

Mods

Manual cam chain adjuster

Suspension (Tekniks)

Higher stronger bars and bark busters

Quality tyres

Case covers

All of the above I would be happy to help you obtain a deal on if required

TB

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Chris I built a DR for Choppa 18 months ago See Here

If you read through it you will see the components fitted and tested and the reviews they received. The large front disc was the best add on at the time the carbon fibre bars the worst. The barrett pipe and Roc Stompa damper worked well

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