[GregMember]

micknmeld wrote:

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Trailboss wrote:

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The R is the race model as such,

Liquid cooled
Kick Start
Plastic Tank
Bigger forks
More suspension travel both ends
Alloy frame on early models not sure now though

The L hasn’t any of the above and is sort of like an NX, an Xr600 motor as such a touring model with as big a following in the states as the R model, and they both have a massive following over there

There is bugger all that can be changed over between the two they are that different

TB

The XR600R wasn’t liquid cooled though, just saying.

You fool we are talking about the 650’s, read half a post once and look what happens :blink:

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Moto wrote:

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I meant the 350 not the 650……

DOH sorry my bad dog

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[GregMember]

Its a great place the learn they have areas that suit learners, if you do that let us know we take the boys down there and have a BBQ, would be great, they are closed all through August

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Moto wrote:

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DOH!!

Chis Hollis has looked at my video attempt to take him down that was posted on here :laugh:

That was only because Wauchope Mayor mick told him, wait for it he will be here shortly, did you know that they are cousins moto, try and act surprised when he tells you, I mean everyone at wauchope is married to their cousin or sister so of course they are related :laugh:

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[GregMember]

WTF you got no work today Moto? :huh: If there was I am sure it would have come out in the last 4 months, there was some footage of Champo, but last time I looked I couldnt find it :blink:

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Moto wrote:

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So, what is the difference between the L and R TB or don’t you know either?

Of course I know, I thought even though you dont you would have cut and pasted something :laugh: Not knowning hasn’t stopped you posting before ha ha, only joking joyce :laugh:

The R is the race model as such,

Liquid cooled
Kick Start
Plastic Tank
Bigger forks
More suspension travel both ends
Alloy frame on early models not sure now though

The L hasn’t any of the above and is sort of like an NX, an Xr600 motor as such a touring model with as big a following in the states as the R model, and they both have a massive following over there

There is bugger all that can be changed over between the two they are that different

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[GregMember]

WOW that DR is heavy, but they sort of feel it.
My XR has a claimed factory weight of 125.6kgs USA spec
Mine at work on the digital freight scales weighed 122.7kgs no fuel but all other liquids

I can say mine feels lighter when riding it, Gilli said the same when he rode it in the singles on the western side of the watos, but it feels all the 133 odd kgs (with fuel) when you are pushing its arse out of bogs for sure

Another thing I can do better wheelies when I have the medium 17 litre fuel tank on for some reason and I dont notice the weight difference when that tank is empty or full, its just the sloshing of fuel sometimes when half full and hard braking on stutter style bumps

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[GregMember]

650R’s are the only liquid cooled XR, any XR Moto

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xy-transit wrote:

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how close / different were the XL and XR 350’s?

Very close, both had the letter X as the first letter in their model name, it was just the last letter was either an L or an R depending on the model

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Moto wrote:

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The software will soon be available to the masses when FI becomes mainstream and there will be other programs that allow you access too. Evryone’s got a laptop these days, if you don’t….tough luck :laugh:

Admit it, once sorted the potential for changing settings on the fly is very easy, not that it’s required for all bar the best riders, although I suspect alot will like to play……I would

You are a peanut! The benefits of EFI are more than stopping to hook up a laptop and change your state of tune :laugh:

I cant type cause I am laughing and shaking my head :laugh:

To pre answer your next post here Moto, “your right, I didnt consider that, you are the man blah blah blah”

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[GregMember]

Moto wrote:

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xy-transit wrote:

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and being the YZ is more aimed at MX, and carb based is more easily tuned to suit rider, conditions etc.??

That’s not really true, once you’ve got your testing done and your fuel maps sorted all you have to do is connect a laptop to a plug on the bike and change the map to any one of an infinite number of settings suited for each an every circuit if you wanted to. The whole process would take no more than a couple of minutes…..much quicker than messing around with jets etc.

:unsure: :blink: :blush: :huh:

Ummm couple of jets and a screw driver $50 or there about

Laptop, software, cables even if you can obtain the software etc $ thousands

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[GregMember]

It will also be easier for her to start then a XR250

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Moto wrote:

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That said, other than Husaberg and maybe Husqvarna what changes have Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha or any other major brands made?

Honda have EFI on the there X and R, last year was the R only, thats just one I know of, plus there still red and everyone knows red is faster

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I dont know Moto if you would have liked one, I think all models had the twin carby setup in the mid 80’s that honda had on the XR 250’s, 350’s and 500’s and as a Honda owner they where a pig of a thing hot, cold and in between. I had two 250’s and they sucked hard core! Great bike when running, when dropped hot and I did it a lot they sucked, cold wasnt much better !!!!

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champo35 wrote:

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i did some laps on the 300 version of that model on the weekend. really good. steered a little too well (which is adjustable). had good breaks and i liked the forks.

I am surprised you liked the forks champo after all you had to say about conventional forks over the apparently must have upside down ohlins forks at the 4 day at Orange :ohmy: :dry:

Its a nice bike Moto and a smart buy, it will be good for her to learn on and as her riding progresses the bike will with her, very good

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