[GregMember]

Ktmrat wrote:

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Ollie wrote:

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What we need to do is get 2 similar bikes and the same rider do say 4-5 laps around a mx track on each bike and compare times,the stop watch dont lieB)

One of my trades is a Airconditioning refrigeration mechanic and the laws of thermodynamics is always being put to use, Often we have to slow down the flow of water from the heat exchanger to reduce the systems head pressure and also to reduce erosion of the cooling tubes.Food for thoughtB) I have mentioned this before,but after seeing some of Bulls work If I were racing I would be getting the Motocool treatment done.

My 2c worth

Ollie

Even better Ollie
4 bikes 2 riders 4 sets data loggers
2 bikes with treatments done 2 without
Riders ride same track same time then swap bikes
after the first tests the bikes systems are swapped and the standard ones become the altered and the altered becomes the standard, all test are then rerun with rider swaps included.

you would now have data to settle all debates, but be prepared for thinking changes and previous understandings need changing as well

Been there done that, the thinking changes that is, not the 4 data loggers

Way to many variables there Rat 4 different bikes different engine conditions, MX tracks no good because lap times change with riders mistakes, I tell you what, I will pay for all the dyno runs before and after using the same bike, same engine condition at Battyes, under the conditions you nominate, you do the mods I will provide the bike KTM 85, everything is then in the open as you said before figures dont lie, brand new state of the art Dyno

TB

[GregMember]

Your in like flynn

TB

[GregMember]

Tiny wrote:

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Hey TB put me down for this one if that is ok with the gang:(

Sorry Tiny its been postponed and replaced with this ride

http://www.obtrailriders.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=2&func=view&catid=58&id=46862

TB

[GregMember]

No its a good dumping ground for everything like why does everybody think Dave and I are not just having friendly banter and healthy debate, today we spoke about it on the phone its all good :laugh:

TB

[GregMember]

No I reckon you lot can take this thread further yet Menace :laugh:

Its wrong oh so wrong but its like a train wreck :laugh:

TB

[GregMember]

menace wrote:

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this thread is almost cowpatt corner material….

now everybody assume the lotus position, take a deep breath and say “Ooommmmm…Ooommmmm”:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I am sure by our banter and phone calls is just healthy debate

TB

[GregMember]

There you go Dave, just remember where I work and what I do for a living, thats all shit Dave you have written, sorry but its all riddles.
You either know and wont say, far enough why start the thread or you have no idea and have been sold sugar tablets

Thats it for me, again Dave you know what I do for a living, you dont know my qualifications but that has nothing to do with you explaining to everybody here

When you have something sensible we will continue

cheers

TB

[GregMember]

Nah all cool here :laugh: , laughing because I cant get a sensible answer, is there a sensible answer Dave?

TB

[GregMember]

Ktmrat wrote:

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TB we have not out engineered anyone, it is mearly what was worked out in the 30’s and 40’s by several motor manufacturers, no smoke and mirrors, and as you know I am an obsessive compulsive about bikes, also there are several race teams in all sorts of motor sports that reroute coolant for various reasons, so,….
when you really think you have your head around it , its not until you realise a little about something, and then you work out you dont know a lot about it at all

Dave thats the biggest shuffle of shit I have ever seen on the website and there is some shit here, you answered nothing, you just danced around and spat dribble

” its not until you realise a little about something, and then you work out you dont know a lot about it at all”

What the hell, you are doing nothing to convince me or anybody with that, if there is something to it your not helping Bull’s cause with that explanation if thats what you call it

TB

[GregMember]

OK the servo at Howes Valley is a no go, so after some rethinking this is how it will work. You will be able to refuel at Laguna and then its 134kms to the lunch stop and refuel. Chicken, Dan, Boulder and I will all have big tanks for people to grab fuel to get through, so that opens it up for you Wikdbeemer its all good

TB

[GregMember]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Please be clear I know know one is meaning to rip anybody of or be fraudulent in any way shape or form

For other uses, see Smoke and mirrors (disambiguation).
Smoke and mirrors is a metaphor for a deceptive, fraudulent or insubstantial explanation or description. The source of the name is based on magicians’ illusions, where magicians make objects appear or disappear by extending or retracting mirrors amid a confusing burst of smoke. The expression may have a connotation of virtuosity or cleverness in carrying out such a deception.

:laugh: :laugh:

OK thats my piss pull

TB

[GregMember]

ross wrote:

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Thanks to all. My first two rides with old bulls, have been very enjoyable. I hope to do many more. I,m always short on words when I have to type.
Thank you again, Ross:woohoo:

Cheers Ross for your report mate thats a cracker good job, I forgot you where their on the day you are the quiet achiever

TB

[GregMember]

Yeah its amazing Crash I was just of air for an hour and a half and am shaking my head at it, its amazing, its like he is trying to say something (quality not important) on every thread. But the good thing I thought at first is that he is reading all the threads like a good moderator, but alas I then read some of his questions

You go Moto we love ya Its a good thing, also I am reading your motocool posts with interest as I am with you mate

TB

[GregMember]

Yeah buy a new one, when its dusted you will be screaming blue murder, thats insane :huh:

TB

[GregMember]

Ballards on line catalogue I think around $140

TB

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